Nature magazine published a special issue “The future of publishing: a new page” 27 March 2013. The next day, Cameron Neylon published a Comment, “Let’s get this straight: Open-access terminology needs to be employed accurately“), in Times Higher Education.
This is a “storify” or gathering of an extended conversation on Twitter, referencing the issue and article above, between me and a number of leading advocates of and commentators on Open Access publishing:
- John Wilbanks, Open Access advocate formerly at the Science Commons project of Creative Commons, now at Sage Bionetworks. Based in Washington, D.C.
- Jason Hoyt: co-founder, Mendeley, currently co-founder at PeerJ, London.
- Matthew Cockerill – Co-founder, BioMed Central, now at Springer BioMed Central, London.
- David Mainwaring – Commissioning Editor, SAGE Publications, London. (specialty in International Relations).
- Martin Paul Eve – lecturer, University of Lincoln; co-founder, Open Library of Humanities.
- Cameron Neylon – Advocacy Director for PLOS (Public Library of Science). Based in Bath, UK.
- Jan Velterop – founding director of BioMed Central, BOAI (Budapest) signatory, CEO Academic Concept Knowledge Limited (AQnowledge).
- Peter Murray-Rust – Professor of Chemistry, Cambridge.
I. Conversation archive
II. Afterword: proposing “Collaborative Advocacy”
III. Followup conversation (added 31 Mar)
I. Conversation archive
excellent free @NatureMagazine special "The future of publishing" http://t.co/pIZNizhfQk @JasonPriem @Wilbanks @NatureNews
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 28, 2013
RT @bmcmatt: "Licence restrictions: A fool's errand" @Wilbanks responds to ill-informed criticism of CC-BY http://t.co/e9w7gUiUeQ
— Jason Hoyt (@jasonHoyt) March 27, 2013
Wilbanks states unequivocally a version of what is sometimes called the “BBB definition” of Open Access, from the Budapest, Berlin, and Bethesda declarations/statements of 2001 and 2003: “open access — the free, immediate online availability of scholarly articles coupled with the right to use them fully in the digital environment.” He then reasserts, as do others, that “the use of the Creative Commons attribution licence (CC-BY) fulfils the community definition of open access.”
[update 31 Mar: Wilbanks also afterwards put up a blog post “A Fool’s Errand, Annotated“, commenting on and clarifying points in the Nature article. He notes,
My quarrel is with the publishing industry’s attempt to write a new license [i.e. “CC Plus“] and I have no wish to lump those with whom I have a philosophical disagreement with those OA advocates who sincerely dislike CC BY, like Heather Morrison or many in humanities, into the same pool.
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"Licences that distinguish between kinds of reuse… fail every definition of open access." @wilbanks http://t.co/JC7R7WR0z5 @NatureMagazine
— creativecommons (@creativecommons) March 27, 2013
@jasonHoyt @bmcmatt “@Wilbanks re. ill-informed criticism of CC-BY http://t.co/HauPzLclts”: can we engage strongest, not specious args?
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 28, 2013
.@creativecommons @wilbanks @NatureMagazine OA will work only if there is consent, rather than the imposition of a particular definition.
— David Mainwaring (@d_mainwaring) March 28, 2013
@d_mainwaring @creativecommons @wilbanks @NatureMagazine but consent has to be informed consent – much knee-jerk to FUD currently.
— Dr Martin Paul Eve (@martin_eve) March 28, 2013
Eve has elsewhere advocated the use of CC-BY licenses for Open Access humanities scholarship, which is the focus of the Open Library of Humanities project.
.@martin_eve @creativecommons @wilbanks @NatureMagazine OA will stall in HSS if it just shouts loudly about Budapest & a single rigid vision
— David Mainwaring (@d_mainwaring) March 28, 2013
@martin_eve @d_mainwaring @creativecommons @wilbanks @NatureMagazine alleging knee-jerk & FUD may produce it. Assume/engage best in others
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 28, 2013
@wilbanks @jasonHoyt @bmcmatt is there, or might we make, an args page, distill & enumerate & anchorlink all key arguments & rebuttals?
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 28, 2013
The next day, Cameron Neylon’s piece “Let’s get this straight: Open-access terminology needs to be employed accurately” was published in Times Higher Education.
By me in #THES The #openaccess debate is important, we need to get the terminology right to look at all options http://t.co/mc2vUIAJBZ
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 28, 2013
@CameronNeylon “get OA terminology right”: what are your thoughts on how to use/define “Open Access” itself, per @wilbanks’ comment e.g.?
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick @CameronNeylon the BBB declarations don't do it for you? that's all this is about to me, not CC BY.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@wilbanks @CameronNeylon I’m not sure that asserting a single yes/no definition of #OpenAccess is necessary, or always helpful.
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick @CameronNeylon then we have a fundamental disagreement. definitions=vital to ensure open source means something. same here.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick @CameronNeylon it's fundamentally a trademark issue. someone asserts OA, it has to *mean something* or it means *nothing*
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick @CameronNeylon i would rather you say "we won't meet the BOAI" than try to pervert the term open access. much more honest.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick @CameronNeylon remember: Raymond coined a new term, not Stallman. OA=defined. Don't like? Define a new term, try to get uptake.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@wilbanks @CameronNeylon there can be clear definitions but variants. E.g. Open Source well defined, but various licenses w/diff properties
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick @CameronNeylon it's perfectly fine to not meet BOAI. valid reasons for it, especially in humanities. but don't call outcome OA.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@wilbanks I’d ask, what are costs & benefits of such an approach, is it necessary? OA isn’t trademark, predates BOAI, right, so why owned?
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick the benefits are network effects and interoperability of content. and though it's not a formal trademark owned by an org [1/2]
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick there is a serious benefit to a community-driven definition. just like the 4 freedoms of free software.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick i'm not being snarky. i think there is room for a new term for the broader universe of public access, which is the term i'd use.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick i don't understand why the burden is on those who agree with BBB to change the term. coin a term, market it. we did. it works.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick but since OA actually means something, preserving its meaning *matters* to many, many, many people.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 28, 2013
@tmccormick I'm with @wilbanks #openaccess is free & immediate access with no restrictions on re-use except reqrmnt for attribution cf #BOAI
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 29, 2013
@tmccormick There's a perfectly gd term for increased access short of true #openaccess & that's "Public Access" as per NIH policy @wilbanks
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 29, 2013
.@CameronNeylon @petermurrayrust OA broad use: Finch/RCUK/HEFCE Wikipedia @JohnWillinsky @petersuber etc. Isn't common cause beneficial?
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 29, 2013
notes:
- Finch is the Finch Report delivered and accepted by UK government in 2012, endorsing open access as public policy.
- RCUK and HEFCE are the primary UK public research funding bodies.
- John Willinsky is founder and Principle Investigator at the Public Knowledge Project, Professor of Education at Stanford, and author of The Access Principle.
- Peter Suber is Director of the Harvard Open Access Project, Faculty Fellow at the Berkman Center for Internet & Society, Senior Researcher at SPARC, Open Access Project Director at Public Knowledge, and Research Professor of Philosophy at Earlham College; and author of Open Access (MIT Press, 2012).
@CameronNeylon it's a valid def. of #OA; my Q. is, why fight that battle vs. common usage & wider allies? isn't broadening access the point?
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 30, 2013
After this exchange, I wrote a comment to the Times Higher Education article by Neylon.
“What you mean 'we'?" the embattled terms #OpenAccess, Green & Gold. my comment @TimesHigherEd http://t.co/auDvXKMxPv @CameronNeylon
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 29, 2013
Tim McCormick | 29 Mar 2013 6:44am
Besides the terms “Gold” and “Green” being misused, the term “Open Access” (or “open access”) itself is a battleground between factions as well. Differing visions of future publishing, and differing strategies of how to progress, both play out upon it.
For example, John Wilbanks’ article in the current special issue of Nature (“The future of publishing”) argues that “for an article to be considered truely open access, it has to meet the…definition in the Budapest Open Access Initiative,” preferably expressed by the CC-BY license. (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v495/n7442/full/495440a.html).
However, “Open Access” is being pervasively applied to practices which don’t meet the BBB (Budapest, Berlin, & Bethesda declaration) definitions — e.g. embargoes, NC or ND license restrictions. Is this allowing the pollution and undermining of the movement, or is it reasonable accommodation to circumstances, and steps towards the longterm goal — bringing various communities together in common cause, around a more capacious understanding of the principle? In political terms, is there more need for Big Tent, or message descipline?
If positions on this aren’t well-considered, it can lead to similar problems as misuse of “Green” and “Gold”: language getting in the way of issues, sound and fury, people talking past each other, distrust and distraction. While the great ocean of opportunity lies mostly undiscovered before us.
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Tim McCormick
@tmccormick / https://tjm.org / Palo Alto, CA, USA
.@timeshighered “misuse of #OpenAccess terms ‘poisoning debate’ http://t.co/cU3eMFujjF”: + disputed OA term itself? http://t.co/Mi8rHQhcKv
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 29, 2013
@CameronNeylon it's a valid def. of #OA; my Q. is, why fight that battle vs. common usage & wider allies? isn't broadening access the point?
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick To prevent some players seeking to define #openaccess as closed as they can. Basically it's a battle over the Overton window
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 30, 2013
@CameronNeylon not obvious to me it's a feasible or optimal strategy, though. Term is pervasively used more broadly, fighting alienates many
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick @CameronNeylon Absolutely, but see compromises for what they are. Legitimate, necessary, but compromises nonetheless; not #OA.
— Jan Velterop (@Villavelius) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick Otherwise we risk losing momentum when only halfway along journey. Wider access gd, public access great, #OA the ultimate goal.
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick I would agree fighting not useful, I just prefer careful use of words and quiet explanation of those choices.
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 30, 2013
@CameronNeylon right, think it's a classic pattern – q. of movement purity/discipline vs. coalition/accommodation.
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 30, 2013
@CameronNeylon I'd say, with Willinsky, that open knowledge is the ultimate goal. OA is a mechanism, that addresses aspects in some realms
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick @CameronNeylon Of course, #OA is a means to a goal, not a goal in itself. But fuzzifying OA is not the way to make that clear.
— Jan Velterop (@Villavelius) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick As any revolutionary will tell you. It's easy to all pull together when you are the underdog. But less so once you've won…
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick But fighting is prob inevitable consequence of a broad coalition with different agendas rediscovering diffs after winning…
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick Other political pattern in revolutn is accommodation often associated with the old guard regaining their points of power… :-)
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick I'd go further (I think) than Willinksy. Goal is Network Optimised Knowledge, #OA, OK are necessary but not sufficient steps
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 30, 2013
@CameronNeylon for me, there's also proximate goal of having someone pay me for my learned observations on these matters ;)
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 30, 2013
@tmccormick I like the PLOS line. 'We welcome moves towards wider access & stand beside colleagues in their journey toward full #openaccess'
— CameronNeylon (@CameronNeylon) March 30, 2013
@CameronNeylon @tmccormick agreed. As opposed to "we will dissemble, drag heels and muddy the water to maximise out hold on the past"
— Peter Murray-Rust (@petermurrayrust) March 30, 2013
Peter Murray-Rust also wrote a blog post following up on Neylon’s article, titled “#openaccess; Let’s get rid of “Green” “Gold” and use precise language such as “CC-BY”. And be joyous.” Here are key sections:
Cameron Neylon has written a compelling article and why we should get rid of “Green” “Gold” “Open Access” as meaningful labels. Because they no longer mean anything. They are as useful as “healthy” in a burger advertisement. I’m not going to repeat Cameron’s arguments – just read them yourself and redistribute.
Most publishers now produce inconsistent quasi-legal rubbish on their web pages. The try to write terms and conditions that are meaningful and normally they aren’t. They are almost an insult to readers (most of whom are actually intelligent knowledgeable humans). There is a spectrum of rubbish, varying from specialist departments of “Universal Access” whose business is in producing platitudes and not answering questions, to others that think that “all-rights-reserved” means something. […]
There is a spectrum of publisher attitudes to licences. At one end we have BMC, PLoS, eLife, peerJ Charlie, and Tim Gowers initiatives and Ubiquity Press and… They positively WANT people to re-use material. It’s honest. At the other end we have unnamed (because I will get sued) publishers who state they are “incredibly helpful” to people like me and somehow seem to make re-use impossible through fudge, inconsistency deliberately unhelpful licences, bad or non-existent labelling etc. Phrases on Open Access papers like “This journal is Copyright XYZ”. Yes, the *journal* is copyright but the paper is APC-paid Open Access and you haven’t the decency to tell the world. That’s weasel words and an insult to the authors and readers. Be honest and say
“This article is CC-BY”. Revere the authors. They want you to acknowledge them and use the article or bits of it for anything anywhere for any legal purpose and they rejoice in people making money out of it without their explicit permission because the more this happens the prouder they feel and the more others value them.
So maybe we need a joyous declaration on scholarly papers. After all Open Access is good and wonderful.
A; Open access means people can live and make a better planet. Not-A: Closed access means people die. A OR not-A ?
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II. Afterword: proposing “Collaborative Advocacy”
In my next post, I plan to expand on my suggestion of working together to articulate and relate positions / counter-arguments in one place. This approach might be called “Collaborative Advocacy“: try to bring together advocates who don’t necessarily agree, and collaborate for optimally engaged, evidenced, clarified expressions of their respective positions. The topic in this case is Open Access, but obviously the approach might be tried for any number of other issues.
Possibly, such a forum/argumentation design could encourage credibility being based on clear, easily-accessible and verified evidence of deep, good-will engagement with counter-argument and diverse views. Which is, you know, not always what happens in the rich human tapestry of discussion. And which would be, arguably, a format expressing in situ the structure which the scholarly or scientific worlds purport to have as a whole.
This has some potential advantages not only for audiences, but for advocates themselves, who often have to continually restate nearly the same arguments in many forums, with comparatively little time to fine-tune or correct their statements. This way, they can get arguments as right as possible, and then just refer people to them by number — like an old couple who know each others’ jokes so well they can just refer to them by number and make each other laugh.
In scholarly publishing terms, this is something like the contrast between the “article”, or individual exposition model, vs. the “topic page” as represented by Wikipedia and scholarly reference works. Except it would not be single point of view, and particular arguments would be attributable to particular contributors. (possibly close to a Wikipedia-style overview page that has broken a topic/issue into sub-, variant, and conflicting views with their own pages).
@wilbanks @jasonHoyt @bmcmatt is there, or might we make, an args page, distill & enumerate & anchorlink all key arguments & rebuttals?
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 28, 2013
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III. Followup conversation (added 31 Mar)
@bmcmatt @HughRundle “@Wilbanks on ill-informed criticism of CC-BY: ill-informed criticism is everywhere; why not respond to well-informed?
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick @bmcmatt @HughRundle i think you answered your own question. "it's everywhere" is a good reason to focus on ill-informed.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@wilbanks yes, good to treat ill communication. Also, to try to understand & engage all/best args – reaches more people, I think.
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick i only got 1000 words! not the place to treat "all" arguments.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@wilbanks yes, I know. I'm not just talking about the Nature article.
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick i've spent enormous amounts of time promoting non-BOAI compliant approaches. i just don't call them OA, because they're not.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@wilbanks @tmccormick Quite! There are legitimate, needed, compromises, but calling them #openaccess has sown more confusion than necessary.
— Jan Velterop (@Villavelius) March 31, 2013
@Villavelius @wilbanks what you see as confusion may to others seem evolution, broadening, coalition, bigger impact.
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick this isn't about BY. it's about what open access means. please just call what you're doing public access.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick the free software / open source software distinction is good for software. far better than trying to dilute what "Free" means.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@wilbanks well, I wonder why long-term advocates like Suber, Willensky, & Harnad don't take this position, nor common usage e.g. Wikipedia
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick i think the green/gold divide was a bad mistake focused on methods. i prefer open/public focused on rights.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@wilbanks you have views, others have views, I'd like it to be a conversation. See "collaborative advocacy" at end of http://t.co/qxpYlHk8Q0
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick @Villavelius there *is* a conversation. i am trying to *change* its tone from gold/green to open/public.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick @Villavelius i would strongly encourage you to look into the negative impacts of license proliferation in open source.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick @Villavelius license proliferation was a significant net negative against the emergence of open source software.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@wilbanks to me the conversational approaches of, e.g. Peter Suber & John Willinsky seem effective.
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick and i love them, too. but they're not me, and i choose an advocacy, change-driven approach.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick and to be clear, i love public access. i fight for it. we need both PA and OA, because one size doesn't fit all.
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@wilbanks seeing the level of common usage now existing, I'm doubtful of the feasibility, necessity, or +ve effect of fighting this battle
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 31, 2013
@tmccormick that's a worthwhile debate to have. and i think if we met in person to discuss over a beer, this would be far easier :-)
— John Wilbanks (@wilbanks) March 31, 2013
@wilbanks sure, love to anytime. They say civilization begins with beer, right? next time you're in SF perhaps.
— Tim McCormick (@tmccormick) March 31, 2013
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@CameronNeylon you know me, working on the “collaborative advocacy” approach http://t.co/WIIdGKTt0q .. always Mr. Nice Guy..
@palumboliu #critiqueonlineed: great idea for a polarized discussion. Phaps leads to “collaborative advocacy” model: http://t.co/1qt9OOSdZu
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